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General Purpose Woods Round--.357 Magnum SJSP or SWC??

 
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Southern Shooter
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: General Purpose Woods Round--.357 Magnum SJSP or SWC?? Reply with quote

From a 2 3/4" barrel, .357 Magnum revolver, which would be the better choice? 158 grain SJSP or 158 grain SWC?? And, why?

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Kanook
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, I have seen soft tipped ammo deflect so I gonna stay with hard cast.

I've been using the evil Black Talon to hunt with for thin skinned animals since it came out. (I'm almost out now) And since it's getting priced to where it's not worth shooting, I've started to use 180 hard cast in its placed. The 180 penetrates very well thru a thick skulled animal where as I've seen JSP glance off the same skull.

If you're using for woods protection, penetration is a must (IMO). And since I don't know when and what is gonna come after me, I'm sticking with the Hard Cast.

And before I forget, My woods carry is a Security Six with the 2 3/4 stainless and has been for 20yrs now. I know you said 158 and that is a great choice but if you get to try the 180, give them a try. if I didn't reload the 180's I'd be reloading the 158's for mine also ( the wifes 686 with a 2" tube is more accurate with the 158's vs the 180's)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardcast for me, but more like 170 grains in either a Keith style SWC or a WFN.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardcast SWC,, easy choice!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

contender wrote:
Hardcast SWC,, easy choice!

I'll make it four for four! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject: ?Federal Premium Vital-Shok .357 Magnum 180 grain CastCore? Reply with quote

Ok, what about this? Federal Premium Vital-Shok .357 Magnum 180 grain CastCore...rating 1250 FPS (from what test barrel length I do NOT know)...through my 2 3/4" Ruger Speed-Six?

What kind of velocity would I perhaps get out of my Speed-Six? Would that combination be too slow to be effective against anything like a mountain lion? Or, even a very large human?

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Kanook
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks close to the BB, Grizzly, and another Top end ammo that is available as pre-loaded ammo. (Looks Good)

But look it this way for a second, You order one box to see if it's accurate and easy to shoot for $26 + shipping

You find out it shoots well but you need to practice for follow up shots and order 100rds (5 boxes of 20 @ $26 a box = $130)

You now have at least $156 invested in ammo that when it runs out you will need to order more or try to find some local in a pinch and you still need to shoot it to stay on target with it,

OR

Midway has a LEE single stage kit on sale for about $80, dies, powder, primers, bullets, brass, RELOADING MANUAL, for about another $100. (range brass is free as long as you ask first)

So for around $180 you can shoot more often and CUSTOM taylor ammo that is CUSTOM made for your revolver.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use factory ammo in my centerfires too much,, so I have no experience with the Federal ammo you asked about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My vote too for handloading. One of the biggest problems I've seen with people carrying guns in the woods is that they have little practice, on account of factory ammo being expensive.
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sourdough44
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking LA? I'm not to big on max 357 mag loads out of a 2 3/4" barreled revolver, especially if the main thought is snakes & 2 legged aggressors. How about some 38 +p & some snake shot? I have an assortment of small 357s & hardly ever go to max loads in them unless a real need was there. Maybe I am a wimp, it's possible. The weight of the gun matters too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't specify what you were expecting but for my use at home, I use swaged lead HP SWC loaded slow enough to prevent leading. Three of those up front followed by 3 158 JHP's. I like the swaged hp because they work well on small varmints w/o too much noise.
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