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azleite Bearcat
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: New model Blackhawks, |
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| Are the current production blued models still built with aluminum grip frames & ejector rods? Are the frames the same size as always? I've become confused with all the all steel flat tops & new sized Vaquero's. Also, has anyone shot a .357 Montado? I got to handle one yesterday & it was nice. I may have to let loose of my .38 speed six to fund my next purchase, it's very clean (blue) w/original grips-what should I ask? Thanks for any help-Dave |
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maxpress Buckeye

Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1236 Location: washington, the state not the capitol
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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depends on the blackhawk that you want.
the convertables have aluminum grip frames and the blackhawk .45 standard models have steel. |
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azleite Bearcat
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:01 pm Post subject: Just the convertible .357's |
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| or does the non convertible .357 standard Blackhawk also still have the aluminum GF & ejector housing,which is what I want-Thank you for replying-Dave |
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Hammerdown77 Single-Sixer
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 234 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| maxpress wrote: | depends on the blackhawk that you want.
the convertables have aluminum grip frames and the blackhawk .45 standard models have steel. |
Really? I thought only the stainless NM Blackhawks had steel grip frames and ERHs, irregardless of caliber. _________________ Ruger NM Blackhawk .45 Auto/Colt Convertible
Ruger .44 Special Flat Top
Ruger .44 Magnum Bisley Super Blackhawk Hunter
Ruger 22/45 Bull Barrel
Cimarron Model P .45 Colt |
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deserttrans Single-Sixer

Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 272 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm curious now too. _________________ FREEDOM ain't FREE..... |
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Dale53 Single-Sixer
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 466 Location: Hamilton, Ohio USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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My relatively new SS Bisley .45 Colt/.45 ACP Convertible has a steel grip frame and ejector rod housing.
My relatively new 50th Anniversary .44 Magnum has a blued steel frame and ejector rod housing.
My relatively new .44 Lipsey Special has a blued steel frame and ejector rod housing.
It would be interesting for me to check out a .44 Special (as an example) with medium frame and aluminum grip frame and ejector rod housing. However, I pretty much prefer steel all 'round even with it's heavier weight for a good field pistol or revolver.
FWIW
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caryc Hawkeye

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 6200 Location: Southern Ca., USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:36 am Post subject: |
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The regular blued Blackhawks, no matter what caliber, all have alloy XR3-RED style grip frames on them. The only difference being that they now have the internal lock in them.
The only blued Blackhawks that have steel grip frames on them are the new flattops and they have the steel XR3 grip frame not the XR3-RED.
So far, these are
50th anniversary .44 mag
50th anniversary .357 mag
.44 Spec. flattop
All three are Blackhawks but all three are also flattops. _________________ Cary Chapman www.clccustomgrips.com |
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maxpress Buckeye

Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1236 Location: washington, the state not the capitol
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:15 am Post subject: |
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i guess i dont know about what they did this year. few years when i wrote and asked the about the weight discrepency in there catalog between the convertable 357/9mm 45colt/45 acp being 6oz lighter across the board than the .357 and 45colt blackhawk they replied that it was because the convertables were aluminum grips and the blackhawk (non convertable) were steel grip and ejector.
may have changed with all this new gripframe jazz they have been doing.
all the bisley are steel though i IIRC. |
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Hammerdown77 Single-Sixer
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 234 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Dale53 wrote: | My relatively new SS Bisley .45 Colt/.45 ACP Convertible has a steel grip frame and ejector rod housing.
My relatively new 50th Anniversary .44 Magnum has a blued steel frame and ejector rod housing.
My relatively new .44 Lipsey Special has a blued steel frame and ejector rod housing.
It would be interesting for me to check out a .44 Special (as an example) with medium frame and aluminum grip frame and ejector rod housing. However, I pretty much prefer steel all 'round even with it's heavier weight for a good field pistol or revolver.
FWIW
Dale53 |
I was actually thinking about putting an aluminum ERH on my .44 Special 5.5", as it seems a little nose heavy compared to my 4 5/8" .45 NM Blackhawk. I like the steel grip frame, though. _________________ Ruger NM Blackhawk .45 Auto/Colt Convertible
Ruger .44 Special Flat Top
Ruger .44 Magnum Bisley Super Blackhawk Hunter
Ruger 22/45 Bull Barrel
Cimarron Model P .45 Colt |
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Arokcrwlr Single-Sixer

Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 405 Location: NE GA, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| caryc wrote: | So far, these are
50th anniversary .44 mag
50th anniversary .357 mag
.44 Spec. flattop
All three are Blackhawks but all three are also flattops. |
To add to the list the .41 mag flattop is steel also. _________________ Μολὼν λάβε |
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caryc Hawkeye

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 6200 Location: Southern Ca., USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| maxpress wrote: | i guess i dont know about what they did this year. few years when i wrote and asked the about the weight discrepency in there catalog between the convertable 357/9mm 45colt/45 acp being 6oz lighter across the board than the .357 and 45colt blackhawk they replied that it was because the convertables were aluminum grips and the blackhawk (non convertable) were steel grip and ejector.
may have changed with all this new gripframe jazz they have been doing.
all the bisley are steel though i IIRC. |
Not the first time I've heard of people getting the wrong info from Ruger. Since installing the internal locks in some of the grip frames they can't even tell you correctly what grip panels will fit what guns.
I think it's just due to the confusion between the people who man the phones and the actual people that know what's what. Kind of like the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. _________________ Cary Chapman www.clccustomgrips.com |
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azleite Bearcat
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 24
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Folks for all the good info, I have placed my order at the local gun store, ya'all take care-Dave |
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maxpress Buckeye

Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1236 Location: washington, the state not the capitol
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| this was pre-lock and i would tend to believe them at that time since my convertable 4 5/8 had an aluminum housing and grip and my .45 5.5 had steel gripframe and ejector housing |
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caryc Hawkeye

Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 6200 Location: Southern Ca., USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| maxpress wrote: | | this was pre-lock and i would tend to believe them at that time since my convertable 4 5/8 had an aluminum housing and grip and my .45 5.5 had steel gripframe and ejector housing |
So you're still saying you have a stock .45 cal regular blued Blackhawk that has a steel XR3-RED grip frame on it?
When I say XR3-RED, I'm talking about the style and size of the grip frame. I don't care what letters or numbers it has molded into it. _________________ Cary Chapman www.clccustomgrips.com |
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maxpress Buckeye

Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1236 Location: washington, the state not the capitol
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:24 am Post subject: |
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no i never said it was xr3-red. i said "from a couple years ago"
anyway, dosnt matter what the grip normanclature was. we are talking about material that was used. |
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