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Shot some old Standard models today

 
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Damoniker7
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Shot some old Standard models today Reply with quote

I had a pleasant surprise today when I asked a former co-worker to go to the range. He had three Ruger Standard models dating from the '60's. One a plain version with tapered barrel; another a bull barrel with an ultra dot with its base clamped on the action and Pach. grips; and a third target model with bull barrel and custom wood wrap around grips. I never thought to take a picture of them before he left but will try to catch him again.

All the guns were given to him by his father or relatives. Two had old leather holsters with leather belts and some wear spots but mostly in great shape. I was amazed at the smooth actions on the guns but found I prefer later models that stay open after the last shot is fired. (Make me feel a bit safer around another shooter.)

They all shot great- very accurate at 25' with two hand hold. The bull with dot sight got heavy fast when aiming but the group was just a chewed out hole.

Sorry if my descriptions are poor; I am not that well versed with all the models that Ruger built but sure enjoyed shooting these quality firearms. There were a couple of FTF with hollow point ammo in the tapered barrel gun but the other two shot everything fine.

All in all, a great day at the range. (BTW, the local gun shop offered to take the two bull barreled guns off his hands for $225 for the pair. I told him that wasn't a very good deal for him. Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell your friend he is a fool if he sells them. Keep them cleaned, and oiled, and pass them on to his grand kids.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, keep them oldies....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$225.00 for the pair! Are they going to kiss him first?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think thats called "kissing......" Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Shot some old Standard models today Reply with quote

Damoniker7 wrote:
........ I was amazed at the smooth actions on the guns but found I prefer later models that stay open after the last shot is fired........


Check here for a fix to that "problem".....

http://www.guntalk-online.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like y'all had a good day shooting. Your friend has some good guns,, and he doesn't need to let the gun shop take advantage of him like that. Yes,, they are in the business of making money,, but excessive underpricing like that is usually reserved for pawn shops.
It also sounds like he has an RST4 or an RST6 tapered bbl Standard, a couple of MKI 5-1/2" bull bbls. At least from what you described!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contender and others - could you give me some more info.? The guy came back today and sold me the bull barrel with the Ultra Dot for $150. That's what he said he wanted. However, now that I have it and took the B Square clamp base mount off, I see that it's a MK II Target w 6 7/8" bull barrel, not a MK I like I wrote. It is very heavy with the scope and base so I want to try it w/o them attached. It also has after-market Pachmayr Signature grips.

I notice that the barrel and receiver move slightly in the grip frame. It is both a front to back movement and a side to side rotating one if I grip the barrel and apply a little side pressure to the grips. Is this normal or is there an easy fix other than ignoring it? It obviously should not affect accuracy as the sights and barrel/action are solid.

Thanks for your help. It's appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did more research and found several methods for a fix. They seemed to range from a vise squeeze to peening to shimming. Others just ignore and keep shooting. I will attempt a shim but don't know best spot. Imagine it's trial and error.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I answered your PM,, but it appears you got a VERY good deal. A MKII bull bbl for $150 with an Ultra dot,,,! WOW! If you want to get original grip panels,, they are easily found,, and even if you pay above retail, you'll still have a very cheap investment in an excellent firearm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. I guess I did get a good price. I didn't realize at the time that Ultra Dots were as expensive as they are. It didn't work until I installed a new 3v battery. Even if I don't keep it on the MK II, I have other guns it will fit.

If I remember correctly, I think I owned an MK II with 5.5" bull barrel at one time. One reason I sold it was its weight. This one is even a heavier load with its longer 6 7/8" barrel.

In my original post, I wrote that it was a MK I. The confusion on my part was due to its not staying open after the last shot. Even now, when the slide/ears are pulled back on an empty magazine, it doesn't always lock back. It doesn't appear to be dirty so I imagine something is worn . . . or the magazine is worn . . . or something.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yessir, you got one heck of a deal....done GOOD...
As for any 'issues' best to give it a good soaking (kerosene?) flush it alll out, good and when you go to reassemble the upper , to the grip frame, you can put a piece of electricians tape or thin piece of cardboard (matchbook cover or business card) into the "notch" (hook) up front that engages the upper to the grip frame...force it in and it will stay nice and tight till the next time you take it all apart...I've seen some stay nice and tight for a LONG time and its easy to do...yes, the proper repair ( squeezing) can be done, BUT we;ve seen guys RUIN their frames trying with NO idea what they were doing...........
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes sir I am with the shimming crowd. Try a piece of a pop can for a shim. Just cut it out the way you want. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all who replied. I appreciate your help. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: now this is heavy--- Reply with quote

this one is real heavy----10" MKII
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