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tkarter Blackhawk
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 647 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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If one takes the time to learn the P89 trigger pull he will realize what a fine weapon he really has for very little money.
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OVERLOADDED Bearcat
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 7 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: Practice, Practice |
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I'll use my hearing protection and practice on understanding the trigger pull/squeeze. Is there any work to be done on the trigger adjustment?
I replaced the factory trigger on my Mark II 512 w/a volquartson pre and post travel adjustmnet screws. I really like the short pre travel.
Overloadded _________________ I believe in Christ, country, my guns! |
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OVERLOADDED Bearcat
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 7 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: Practice, Practice |
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I'll use my hearing protection and practice on understanding the trigger pull/squeeze. Is there any work to be done on the trigger adjustment?
I replaced the factory trigger on my Mark II 512 w/a volquartson pre and post travel adjustmnet screws. I really like the short pre travel.
Overloadded _________________ I believe in Christ, country, my guns! |
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tkarter Blackhawk
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Some where around 500 rounds the trigger will be about as good as it will get. I don't know of anyone messing with the triggers on a P89.
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Mike J Blackhawk
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 948 Location: GA
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest dry fire practice to learn the trigger. I did it with my P944 with a penny on the front sight. It helped me a lot.. The side benefit is dry firing will also help smooth out your trigger. _________________ GeorgiaCarry.orgMember |
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BuckJM53 Blackhawk

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 829 Location: SW Ohio
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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SEE RESULTS BELOW _________________ "We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free"
- Ronald Reagan

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BuckJM53 Blackhawk

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 829 Location: SW Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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OK Guys ... The Final Results for the June "P Series Challenge" are as follows: Thanks to all who entered
Al James (P90), WINNER of the .40 / .45 division at 1"
AND ... BuckJM53 (P95), WINNER of the 9mm division at 1.18"
 _________________ "We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free"
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Al James Blackhawk
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 594 Location: Wild West
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I was bummed that I was unable to get out to try and improve my 45 group and even try a 9mm or 40. Next time I guess. I realized one thing about the P series guns that may explain there reputation regarding accuracy. The trigger pull and sights have a lot to do with there so called lack of accuracy IMO. If a shooter does not concentrate on a good trigger squeeze and perfect sight alignment they will not shoot the guns well. The sights are made more for speed than match grade accuracy. That mixed with a trigger which is a little creepy makes matters worse. I think those two attributes contribute to the perceived lack of accuracy more than any inherent mechanical accuracy issues. It makes me want to tune the trigger and install some good target style sight on a P to test my theory. We should do a SR9 only contest next to see which design people are shooting better with. Just an idea. Well see! |
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Cheesewhiz Buckeye

Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 1330 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Al James wrote: | | We should do a SR9 only contest next to see which design people are shooting better with. Just an idea. Well see! |
Al, we have a striker fired pistol challenge for the month of July in the Shooting Match section.
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=90235
I'm pretty certain you'll like it, it'll be fun. _________________ The Republicans drove the car into the ditch and then the Democrats got behind the wheel, floored the gas pedal and stuck the car in the mud, flattened the tires, set it on fire and did a victory dance on and around it. My guess is we won't see much of that dance this November. |
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BuckJM53 Blackhawk

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 829 Location: SW Ohio
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Al James wrote: | | I realized one thing about the P series guns that may explain there reputation regarding accuracy. The trigger pull and sights have a lot to do with there so called lack of accuracy IMO. If a shooter does not concentrate on a good trigger squeeze and perfect sight alignment they will not shoot the guns well. The sights are made more for speed than match grade accuracy. That mixed with a trigger which is a little creepy makes matters worse. I think those two attributes contribute to the perceived lack of accuracy more than any inherent mechanical accuracy issues. |
Al ... While I'm sure you'll agree that proper sight alignment and trigger control are critical with any gun if you hope to be accurate , I have to agree with you that with P Series pistols ... the margin of error in these two areas is very small (especially regarding developing a consistant trigger squeeze) . _________________ "We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free"
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Al James Blackhawk
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 594 Location: Wild West
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BuckJM53 wrote: | | Al James wrote: | | I realized one thing about the P series guns that may explain there reputation regarding accuracy. The trigger pull and sights have a lot to do with there so called lack of accuracy IMO. If a shooter does not concentrate on a good trigger squeeze and perfect sight alignment they will not shoot the guns well. The sights are made more for speed than match grade accuracy. That mixed with a trigger which is a little creepy makes matters worse. I think those two attributes contribute to the perceived lack of accuracy more than any inherent mechanical accuracy issues. |
Al ... While I'm sure you'll agree that proper sight alignment and trigger control are critical with any gun if you hope to be accurate , I have to agree with you that with P Series pistols ... the margin of error in these two areas is very small (especially regarding developing a consistant trigger squeeze) . |
Yes I would liken it to shooting a M1a with standard sights and trigger for groups compared to a M1a with a tuned trigger and match sights. Less "air" in the sight picture makes for more precision IMO. I love the P guns though-tougher than they should be at the price point, 100% reliable, accurate enough for a defensive/service type pistol IMO, and best of all made in the USA. Overall great guns! |
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Tx944 Bearcat

Joined: 04 Sep 2010 Posts: 20 Location: DFW
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: P Series Challenge for June - FINAL WINNERS |
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[quote="BuckJM53"]Guys ... Since the Springfields and CZs dominated the May contest, how about a Ruger P Series pistol Challenge for the month of June (after all this is a Ruger forum ). I was thinking:
* 10 yards (to help those of us older guys who struggled at 15 yards without optics)
* Standing, off hand & no optics
* Best 5 shot group size (measured center to center)
* One division for 9mm and a seperate division for .45acp & .40 S&W
* Post your best group with the opportunity to update if you shoot a better group as the month goes on.
If enough folks are interested, I'll post a target ... let me know what you guys think.[/quote]
Buck,
I hope you'll have another one for September, because it
sounds like a Good idea, I gotta free pass to the range I've been meaning to use anyways.
I'll print out a couple of your targets to bring with me.
This is as good a time as any to test out those Meprolight, Tritium Sights , I got for the ole 944.
Sounds like fun.
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tkarter Blackhawk
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 647 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I am ashamed of the targets I posted as both of my P series shoot better. I was on low ammo month.
Anyone that says a P series isn't as accurate as any other handgun would be wrong in my opinion.
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