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[wolfsong]

Jimbo, I give up. Despite the fact that no judge was involved in enacting the no lead bill, despite the fact that there is no consensus among the parties that lead bullets are poisoning the condors, despite the fact that there is no conclusive scientific evidence indicating such, you cannot accept the truth. My dislike or approval of the current California administration and Obama being the president has nothing to do with this thread. You are the only one who mentioned those items. Somehoe, it is mind boggling to me that, despite obvious information to the contrary, you cannot accept the truth and you insist on saying "yeah, but..." at every turn, in spite of the facts. There is absolutely no sense or reason to discuss this topic with you. You can't accept the truth, the facts. Instead, you insist that your opinion is in fact the truth. My God. This explains a lot about your views on the world around us. Doesn't lend much towards establishing your credibility. Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.
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[badgerrr]

"You really can't lump compounds like lead chromate and lead oxide in with metallic lead if you are looking for accuracy, even if the word lead is used. "

Thank you, Leadeye, for speaking to the crux of this situation.

Table salt is Sodium Chloride. That means it's made from a flammable/explosive metal and World War One era poison gas. Table salt is neither.

Attacking metallic lead because poisonous compounds can be created from it is, if not absurd, just plain wrong headed.

This attempted lead bullet ban is just more evidence that the current environmentalism is primarily a Red Herring - a pretext - to enact restrictive laws that could never be passed on their own merits.

[MD]

It's amazing we never had an environmental catastrophe from all of the lead shot everywhere during the Revolutionary and Civil Wars.


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[wolfsong]

Geez, now it's eagles. So now eagles are eating carrion in sufficient amounts as to suffer the same malady as the scavenger condor? Do you know the difference between birds of prey and scavengers? Never mind, don't answer. BTW, the lawsuits were settled out of court. NO JUDGE. Whatever gets you through the night, Jimbo. Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.
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[Leadeye]

Again I will say that I would have to look at the extraction study data.

How was the test run to determine elevated lead levels? AA? How many and what other types of heavy metals showed up in the analysis?

Lead chromate was used for years to paint yellow stripes on highways all over this country. Lead carbonate was the white paint pigment used on buildings that set off initial lead paint legislation years ago. Tetra ethyl lead is still used in Avgas. These people have a lot more work to do before jumping to a conclusion.

"Sketchy" data really has no place in decision making.

[Doug.38PR]

just about all I ever shoot are lead round nose bullets or at least semi-jacketed lead tiped bullets out of my .38 Special, .45 Long Colt and .357 Magnum guns.
the .38 Special and .357 Magnum I probably shoot more than any other round in my collection. Don't care for jacketed ammo in these guns.

If Ka lifornia wants to ban lead because some dang bird might get sick, makes no nevermind to me, they seem to delight in banning anything and everything that makes life life in order to make a perfect world in their own image.
But if they start telling me what I can and can't shoot (and I'm sure their are some limp wristed transplants down in Baton Rouge who want to)....I'll hand over my lead bullets to them....at 755-1400 ft per second!
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[wolfsong]

Jimbo, environmentalists filed a suit to ban lead bullets in the condor's range, Nava introduced AB821, despite the F & G Commission's objections Arnold signed ot into law, the F & G Commission then took it upon themselves to EXPAND the area affected by the initial ban - to include the condor's "historical" range, where there haven't been condors in well over 100 years - and here we are. The Endangered Species Act did not weigh as much of a factor in bringing this about. Pressure from environmentalist groups, along with dubious "scientific" data (paid for by said environmentalist groups - go figure) caused Arnold to cave. And the ironic thing is, the condors are still dying. Go figure. What is moot is due process, you know - the liberal's way of telling others what is best while having nothing concrete to support their theories\agendas. But, like I said earlier, whatever gets you through the night. Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.
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Wolf, you are wasting your breath. The way you and I trust in God, Jimbo and the rest of the left trust in their god (the federal government). Facts mean nothing, especially if said facts fly in the face of their god.
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