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mx842
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| CDFingers wrote: | When I read it Sunday morning, I passed on comment because these ideas have been brought up several times on this board. While I don't begrudge the writer his opinion, I believe the world is much more integrated than it was during Hitler's time. Back then, with global communications what they were, it was easy to drive under the world's radar for years. Not so now.
While those things did happen during Hitler's time, I don't see the strong parallels between Hitler's time then and what we're experiencing now with O. The reason is that no longer can discrimination and hate fly under the radar for very long and be given time to develop nationally.
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your kidding right? Just how do you think the demoCrits have bankrupted our country the way they have and gotten us to a point that white people are racist just because they don't like what the half african is doing to our country. HUH? |
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| ASIGIAM wrote: | | strider, I realize there is always a problem for libs to read anything with an open mind |
ASIGIAM, I can be as open-minded as the next guy, but c'mon... Obama as Hitler?
The campaign is over, the election is over, and yet the author is stuck on those tired old talking points that the voters rejected.
And a comment on O's lack of experience - that's outdated now too, since he's had 10 months experience now as leader of the free world. "Mayor of Wasilla" on a resume doesn't quite measure up.
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[quote="strider"] | ASIGIAM wrote: | | "Mayor of Wasilla" on a resume doesn't quite measure up. |
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Juan Gama
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| strider wrote: |
And a comment on O's lack of experience - that's outdated now too, since he's had 10 months experience now as leader of the free world. ... . |
Wow. So we can take any recent college graduate and make them head of a company and in 10 months they'll be doing just fine. That's a revolutionary concept that is going to make replacing CEOs sooooo much easier....
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blume357
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I hate to be dense... but I am...
what the heck is "dog whistle politics"? |
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| blume357 wrote: | I hate to be dense... but I am...
what the heck is "dog whistle politics"? |
Here it is from Wikipedia:
| Wikipedia wrote: | | Dog-whistle politics, also known as the use of code words, is a term for a type of political campaigning or speechmaking which employs coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has a different or more specific meaning for a targeted subgroup of the audience. The term is invariably pejorative, and is used to refer both to messages with an intentional subtext, and those where the existence or intent of a secondary meaning is disputed. |
Both sides of the isle use it.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Juan Gama wrote: | | strider wrote: |
And a comment on O's lack of experience - that's outdated now too, since he's had 10 months experience now as leader of the free world. ... . |
Wow. So we can take any recent college graduate and make them head of a company and in 10 months they'll be doing just fine. That's a revolutionary concept that is going to make replacing CEOs sooooo much easier....
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Never said anything about "doing just fine" - just that the 10 months counts as way more experience than the other college grad pumping gas in Wasilla.
Some presidents get two 4-year terms of experience as president, and still don't do "just fine." Too soon to tell for Obama.
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| You can lay bets now he wont get two terms. If he does just bend over and kiss your a$$ goodbye. |
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| ASIGIAM wrote: | | You can lay bets now he wont get two terms. If he does just bend over and kiss your a$$ goodbye. |
The only way Mr. Obama get's two terms, as it stands "right now", is if the other side of the isle does not disavow the tactics shown in the posters and signs in the Tea Bag demonstrations and the the rhetoric and disgusting tactics shown in the August town hall meetings. In order to "win" the presidency ANY candidate must win over the middle. The middle may be shown the above mentioned tactics over, and over, and over, and over again. Middle America really doesn't like seeing women in wheelchairs shouted down by people in public. Middle America really doesn't like it when a top ranking republican tells a woman in deep trouble to go get charity for her problems. I mean, middle America has a lot of pride in America. They know that telling a woman to go get "charity" is beneath what this country is all about. Most of my republican friends hated that aspect of the town halls. If the Democrats remind them of that, you may see Mr. Obama as president for two terms. That's "as it stands right now". Who can say what will happen between now and then.
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| who the hell do you think the middle is? |
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| ASIGIAM wrote: | | who the hell do you think the middle is? |
Not the people with Obama/Hitler signs, or Obama/witchdoctor signs, or those who yell at the top of their lungs at women in wheelchairs. Most people know that America is better than that. The middle may not like what is happening in America. But they don't like the tactics that were used this summer.
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I find it a bit premature to talk of second terms. However, if the economy improves, O will be unbeatable. it's still the economy...
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You are right CD, but remember that the economy was a large part of Hitler's success also. There may be no comparison, but the fact remains. With unemployment at over 9 per cent, it is getting harder and harder to blame Bush with a Dem. president and a democrat legislature in control. The stifling of the dollar is due in part to fear of what Obama might do will hurt the country. Your oil producing and service companies are gunshy right now. I am not talking about the billion dollar companies, but the ones who drill here, the independant people upon whose back the real oil industry rests in this country. The Democrats will have to start producing very soon on jobs and the strength of the dollar or they might be history in the next election. My opinion only of course, Hank.
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| hawkeye wrote: | Very thought provoking. Begs to have answers to some of the questions discussed in the article. If only the media would...
Thanks for the post. |
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| gunslinger_h wrote: | | You are right CD, but remember that the economy was a large part of Hitler's success also. There may be no comparison, but the fact remains. With unemployment at over 9 per cent, it is getting harder and harder to blame Bush with a Dem. president and a democrat legislature in control. The stifling of the dollar is due in part to fear of what Obama might do will hurt the country. Your oil producing and service companies are gunshy right now. I am not talking about the billion dollar companies, but the ones who drill here, the independant people upon whose back the real oil industry rests in this country. The Democrats will have to start producing very soon on jobs and the strength of the dollar or they might be history in the next election. My opinion only of course, Hank. |
brain washing youths to sing Obama tunes.Surrounding himself with radicals not wanting to keep American principles.Give me a break.Not Hitler of course. just using the same tatics to gain complete control of the citizens.
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